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Hey Liberals: you know how you're always whining about how Conservatives aren't to be trusted? SURPRISE! We feel the exact same way about you! Too bad we can't just work together to make the world better...

Truer words….

Truer words….

Thanks to whoever submitted this to me. That’s pretty apt 

Thanks to whoever submitted this to me. That’s pretty apt 

How has no one thought of that already?!

How has no one thought of that already?!

Just let him stay there. We’re all better off if he does

Just let him stay there. We’re all better off if he does

…and win, apparently…

…and win, apparently…

Don’t cry, Millennials. I’m sure that someone can give you a hug…

Don’t cry, Millennials. I’m sure that someone can give you a hug…

Seriously!

Seriously!

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#Priorities

How about the politician’s who make more money in a year then a regular person makes in several years!! How about them wanting to send BILLIONS of dollars to help Gaza rebuild. How about the money movie stars make, or football players, or singers. It’s all fucking bullshit!!

I don’t begrudge them anything they earn privately but I’m not happy with pretty much anything they’re doing on the clock when it comes to our tax dollars

star-dust-and-pixie-farts:

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#Priorities

How about the politician’s who make more money in a year then a regular person makes in several years!! How about them wanting to send BILLIONS of dollars to help Gaza rebuild. How about the money movie stars make, or football players, or singers. It’s all fucking bullshit!!

I don’t begrudge them anything they earn privately but I’m not happy with pretty much anything they’re doing on the clock when it comes to our tax dollars

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#Priorities

#Priorities

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This is because everything they believe is a #HumanRight and should be funded by the government (i.e. you), but everything they don’t believe in is wrong and should be banned. #ProChoiceLogic

Conservatives are NOT pro-choice on health care or personal freedom. If they were, they’d support gay marriage and free health care.

I think that you’re confused as to what a “choice” is. Being forced to pay into a very flawed government health care plan is not a “choice” by any stretch of the imagination. On a related note, you apparently don’t understand the meaning of the word “free” either.

It’s absolutely disgusting that you think it’s “flawed” just because it costs you money. Sure it’s not free to you, but there are people who can’t afford to go to the hospital for treatment if the break a bone or terribly injure themselves, and the point of free healthcare is that it’s free to them. You need to have some compassion.

You really belive that people who don’t agree with you lack compassion, don’t you? I don’t oppose universal healthcare, I oppose Obamacare. It is poorly planned and executed. Get off your high horse and try to understand that doing a good thing the wrong way hurts everyone.

It DOESNT hurt everyone, though, there are so many success stories, and you don’t lack compassion because you refuse to agree with me, you lack compassion because for once, this country is trying to help the lower class, and you’re still acting like the upper class is “everyone”.

I understand that you really believe that and I don’t want to be harsh here but I need to ask if you’ve ever studied economics at all. As I previously mentioned, it IS NOT FREE. Someone has to pay for it. People like you believe that you’re sticking it to the 1% but it’s really the middle class who are being screwed. You know who the middle class are, right? People who work hard and usually have college degrees but still live paycheck to paycheck because they can’t get ahead because they have to carry the weight for people who are abusing the system? 
There are far more people abusing the system than there are people who truly need it. I’m all for helping those who are really in need but government handouts have created a society that lives on social programs. The way it’s going to hurt us all is that as more and more people have to utilize the government system because they can’t afford their own healthcare, there won’t be enough people paying into it to support it. 
The healthcare system is crooked. My wife has worked for several major healthcare providers and hates all of them for their dishonesty. Three of my closest friends either are currently or have been executives with major health insurance companies. They can tell stories about how dishonest those companies are all day long. The system needed to be reformed and regulated but Obamacare mostly just took over, added another level of bureaucracy for us to pay for and for the most part, let them keep operating and doing business as usual. The lower class may be getting free healthcare but us middle class folks can’t afford to pay our monthly premiums let alone the co-pays and deductibles. The result is we either put off important health maintenance visits and procedures or we end up still going bankrupt after we have a major health event. Remember how the big push for this was that no one should have to go bankrupt due to healthcare costs? Obamacare is not protecting the middle class from that.
The middle class is the backbone of the economy that supports “free” healthcare and we’re drowning under the cost of day to day life. The cost of gas is absurd and it trickles down to the cost of groceries and other necessities making their prices absurd as well. The government and you progressives keep treating us middle class taxpayers like the golden goose and we all know what happened to the golden goose. 
I’ll end on a personal note. I have bad joints left from sports injuries in my youth. I lived with pretty constant shoulder pain for many years before getting rotator cuff surgery a couple of years ago. I will probably not be done paying that off until my kids are in college and I was insured by United Healthcare, who my wife was actually working for at the time. We were paying over $500 a month for healthcare that covered nothing until deductible was met. My other rotator cuff needs to be repaired as well but I just can’t afford it. I have constant pain and can’t lift my arm above my shoulder without severe pain. I have a college degree, a family and I live modestly. I am not claiming any sort of disability at all and I work at least 40 hours a week.
In the version of the American Dream I was presented in my youth, I was supposed to be able to work hard, support my family, save money for retirement and have reasonably priced healthcare that the government would make sure was operating fairly. What I got was an economy destroyed by both political parties who now can’t fix it and are too busy blaming each other and convening exploratory committees to investigate each other and assess more blame. I also got a  tax system that takes nearly 1/2 my income when you factor in ALL of the taxes, i.e., sales, gas, etc. as well as the ones that come out of my paycheck. On top of all of this, I still make my own charitable contributions every month to organizations who i trust will get the money to those who truly need it. I recently had to tell my oldest daughter that I can not afford to send her on an important school trip that will have a bearing on her ability to get into a good college because we just can’t afford it.
So as you tell me that I “lack compassion” try taking a walk in my shoes and gaining a basic understanding of economics and psychology. While you’re doing that, I’ll be busy working and lamenting the progressive destruction of the American Dream by those who share your beliefs and level of understanding.

your—everything—better—plan:

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your—everything—better—plan:

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This is because everything they believe is a #HumanRight and should be funded by the government (i.e. you), but everything they don’t believe in is wrong and should be banned. #ProChoiceLogic

Conservatives are NOT pro-choice on health care or personal freedom. If they were, they’d support gay marriage and free health care.

I think that you’re confused as to what a “choice” is. Being forced to pay into a very flawed government health care plan is not a “choice” by any stretch of the imagination. On a related note, you apparently don’t understand the meaning of the word “free” either.

It’s absolutely disgusting that you think it’s “flawed” just because it costs you money. Sure it’s not free to you, but there are people who can’t afford to go to the hospital for treatment if the break a bone or terribly injure themselves, and the point of free healthcare is that it’s free to them. You need to have some compassion.

You really belive that people who don’t agree with you lack compassion, don’t you? I don’t oppose universal healthcare, I oppose Obamacare. It is poorly planned and executed. Get off your high horse and try to understand that doing a good thing the wrong way hurts everyone.

It DOESNT hurt everyone, though, there are so many success stories, and you don’t lack compassion because you refuse to agree with me, you lack compassion because for once, this country is trying to help the lower class, and you’re still acting like the upper class is “everyone”.

I understand that you really believe that and I don’t want to be harsh here but I need to ask if you’ve ever studied economics at all. As I previously mentioned, it IS NOT FREE. Someone has to pay for it. People like you believe that you’re sticking it to the 1% but it’s really the middle class who are being screwed. You know who the middle class are, right? People who work hard and usually have college degrees but still live paycheck to paycheck because they can’t get ahead because they have to carry the weight for people who are abusing the system? 

There are far more people abusing the system than there are people who truly need it. I’m all for helping those who are really in need but government handouts have created a society that lives on social programs. The way it’s going to hurt us all is that as more and more people have to utilize the government system because they can’t afford their own healthcare, there won’t be enough people paying into it to support it. 

The healthcare system is crooked. My wife has worked for several major healthcare providers and hates all of them for their dishonesty. Three of my closest friends either are currently or have been executives with major health insurance companies. They can tell stories about how dishonest those companies are all day long. The system needed to be reformed and regulated but Obamacare mostly just took over, added another level of bureaucracy for us to pay for and for the most part, let them keep operating and doing business as usual. The lower class may be getting free healthcare but us middle class folks can’t afford to pay our monthly premiums let alone the co-pays and deductibles. The result is we either put off important health maintenance visits and procedures or we end up still going bankrupt after we have a major health event. Remember how the big push for this was that no one should have to go bankrupt due to healthcare costs? Obamacare is not protecting the middle class from that.

The middle class is the backbone of the economy that supports “free” healthcare and we’re drowning under the cost of day to day life. The cost of gas is absurd and it trickles down to the cost of groceries and other necessities making their prices absurd as well. The government and you progressives keep treating us middle class taxpayers like the golden goose and we all know what happened to the golden goose. 

I’ll end on a personal note. I have bad joints left from sports injuries in my youth. I lived with pretty constant shoulder pain for many years before getting rotator cuff surgery a couple of years ago. I will probably not be done paying that off until my kids are in college and I was insured by United Healthcare, who my wife was actually working for at the time. We were paying over $500 a month for healthcare that covered nothing until deductible was met. My other rotator cuff needs to be repaired as well but I just can’t afford it. I have constant pain and can’t lift my arm above my shoulder without severe pain. I have a college degree, a family and I live modestly. I am not claiming any sort of disability at all and I work at least 40 hours a week.

In the version of the American Dream I was presented in my youth, I was supposed to be able to work hard, support my family, save money for retirement and have reasonably priced healthcare that the government would make sure was operating fairly. What I got was an economy destroyed by both political parties who now can’t fix it and are too busy blaming each other and convening exploratory committees to investigate each other and assess more blame. I also got a  tax system that takes nearly 1/2 my income when you factor in ALL of the taxes, i.e., sales, gas, etc. as well as the ones that come out of my paycheck. On top of all of this, I still make my own charitable contributions every month to organizations who i trust will get the money to those who truly need it. I recently had to tell my oldest daughter that I can not afford to send her on an important school trip that will have a bearing on her ability to get into a good college because we just can’t afford it.

So as you tell me that I “lack compassion” try taking a walk in my shoes and gaining a basic understanding of economics and psychology. While you’re doing that, I’ll be busy working and lamenting the progressive destruction of the American Dream by those who share your beliefs and level of understanding.

Source: political-dissonance

lamborpanini:rvolt24:

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This is because everything they believe is a #HumanRight and should be funded by the government (i.e. you), but everything they don’t believe in is wrong and should be banned. #ProChoiceLogic

Seriously? Pro choice on health care? If someone is severely injured, they’re not going to choose not to go to a hospital. Not to mention that abortion is healthcare. And liberals aren’t against guns, we’re just against violent, homicidal idiots being allowed to own them.

Most of the “violent, homicidal idiots” who have made the news in recent years have actually been liberals. Guess that explains why they consider killing babies to be “healthcare”…

There political standing has nothing to do with their choice to kill actual sentient humans who can, unlike a fetus, feel pain.

OK, I’ll play along. So it’s OK to kill someone if they can’t feel pain?

No of course not, but abortion isn’t “killing a person”, because a fetus isn’t a person.

So I guess the magic question here is; are you willing to acknowledge that that is your opinion, not scientifically proven fact?

Personhood is a legal matter, not scientific. What is scientific is that a fetus is not alive. An EEG is the medical way of determining someone’s state of consciousness; it’s a way of telling if someone is dead or alive, and fetuses don’t have an EEG. So, sure, a fetus is human, what else would it be? Even so, a fetus is not a person, and it’s not alive, and you can’t kill something that’s not alive in the first place. Abortion simply removes a non-sentient being that has no consciousness.

"personhood is a legal matter". If something is legal then you automatically agree with it? If you’re going to do that for one thing then in order to use it as a justification you have to do it for all things. Otherwise, it just doesn’t work.As for your claim that it is scientific that a fetus is not alive, you are dodging my question. It is scientific “theory”, not scientific “fact”. If you don’t know the difference, you shouldn’t be using “science” as you argument.

I actually have 0 time for assholes who don’t know the difference between a theory and a fact. It’s proven that fetuses don’t have and EEG. And I’m not necessarily saying that I agree with all legal matters, I’m simply saying that personhood isn’t a scientific matter.

Nice, you can’t use your words or logic to defend your flawed point of view so you’ve fallen back on cursing and name calling. Typical of your side

Mind if I jump in here?…As early as 21 days after conception, the baby’s heart has begun to beat his or her own unique blood-type, often different than the mother’s.  (Moore & Persaud,The Developing Human, p.310; Nilsson & Hamberger, A Child is Born, p.86; Rugh & Shettles, From Conception to Birth, p.217.)  At 40 days after conception, brain waves can be read on an EEG, or an electroencephalogram.  (Dr. H. Hamlin, Life or Death by EEG, JAMA, Oct.12, 1964, p.113.)“By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception.”Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic

Now THAT is some solid scientific information that I can get behind. I stand by my opinion, but you’ve proven my previous point wrong. Thank you for showing me some actual reliable sources.
Well, there you go. You are capable of admitting that your “scientific facts” were nothing more than your opinion…

lamborpanini:

rvolt24:

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lamborpanini:

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lamborpanini:

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lamborpanini:

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lamborpanini:

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This is because everything they believe is a #HumanRight and should be funded by the government (i.e. you), but everything they don’t believe in is wrong and should be banned. #ProChoiceLogic

Seriously? Pro choice on health care? If someone is severely injured, they’re not going to choose not to go to a hospital. Not to mention that abortion is healthcare. And liberals aren’t against guns, we’re just against violent, homicidal idiots being allowed to own them.

Most of the “violent, homicidal idiots” who have made the news in recent years have actually been liberals. Guess that explains why they consider killing babies to be “healthcare”…

There political standing has nothing to do with their choice to kill actual sentient humans who can, unlike a fetus, feel pain.

OK, I’ll play along. So it’s OK to kill someone if they can’t feel pain?

No of course not, but abortion isn’t “killing a person”, because a fetus isn’t a person.

So I guess the magic question here is; are you willing to acknowledge that that is your opinion, not scientifically proven fact?

Personhood is a legal matter, not scientific. What is scientific is that a fetus is not alive. An EEG is the medical way of determining someone’s state of consciousness; it’s a way of telling if someone is dead or alive, and fetuses don’t have an EEG. So, sure, a fetus is human, what else would it be? Even so, a fetus is not a person, and it’s not alive, and you can’t kill something that’s not alive in the first place. Abortion simply removes a non-sentient being that has no consciousness.

"personhood is a legal matter". If something is legal then you automatically agree with it? If you’re going to do that for one thing then in order to use it as a justification you have to do it for all things. Otherwise, it just doesn’t work.

As for your claim that it is scientific that a fetus is not alive, you are dodging my question. It is scientific “theory”, not scientific “fact”. If you don’t know the difference, you shouldn’t be using “science” as you argument.

I actually have 0 time for assholes who don’t know the difference between a theory and a fact. It’s proven that fetuses don’t have and EEG. And I’m not necessarily saying that I agree with all legal matters, I’m simply saying that personhood isn’t a scientific matter.

Nice, you can’t use your words or logic to defend your flawed point of view so you’ve fallen back on cursing and name calling. Typical of your side

Mind if I jump in here?…

As early as 21 days after conception, the baby’s heart has begun to beat his or her own unique blood-type, often different than the mother’s.  (Moore & Persaud,The Developing Human, p.310; Nilsson & Hamberger, A Child is Born, p.86; Rugh & Shettles, From Conception to Birth, p.217.)  At 40 days after conception, brain waves can be read on an EEG, or an electroencephalogram.  (Dr. H. Hamlin, Life or Death by EEG, JAMA, Oct.12, 1964, p.113.)

“By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception.”Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic

Now THAT is some solid scientific information that I can get behind. I stand by my opinion, but you’ve proven my previous point wrong. Thank you for showing me some actual reliable sources.

Well, there you go. You are capable of admitting that your “scientific facts” were nothing more than your opinion…

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lamborpanini:

mysterioussomeoneindisguise:

lamborpanini:

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lamborpanini:

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lamborpanini:

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lamborpanini:

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This is because everything they believe is a #HumanRight and should be funded by the government (i.e. you), but everything they don’t believe in is wrong and should be banned. #ProChoiceLogic

Seriously? Pro choice on health care? If someone is severely injured, they’re not going to choose not to go to a hospital. Not to mention that abortion is healthcare. And liberals aren’t against guns, we’re just against violent, homicidal idiots being allowed to own them.

Most of the “violent, homicidal idiots” who have made the news in recent years have actually been liberals. Guess that explains why they consider killing babies to be “healthcare”…

There political standing has nothing to do with their choice to kill actual sentient humans who can, unlike a fetus, feel pain.

OK, I’ll play along. So it’s OK to kill someone if they can’t feel pain?

No of course not, but abortion isn’t “killing a person”, because a fetus isn’t a person.

So I guess the magic question here is; are you willing to acknowledge that that is your opinion, not scientifically proven fact?

Personhood is a legal matter, not scientific. What is scientific is that a fetus is not alive. An EEG is the medical way of determining someone’s state of consciousness; it’s a way of telling if someone is dead or alive, and fetuses don’t have an EEG. So, sure, a fetus is human, what else would it be? Even so, a fetus is not a person, and it’s not alive, and you can’t kill something that’s not alive in the first place. Abortion simply removes a non-sentient being that has no consciousness.

"personhood is a legal matter". If something is legal then you automatically agree with it? If you’re going to do that for one thing then in order to use it as a justification you have to do it for all things. Otherwise, it just doesn’t work.As for your claim that it is scientific that a fetus is not alive, you are dodging my question. It is scientific “theory”, not scientific “fact”. If you don’t know the difference, you shouldn’t be using “science” as you argument.

I actually have 0 time for assholes who don’t know the difference between a theory and a fact. It’s proven that fetuses don’t have and EEG. And I’m not necessarily saying that I agree with all legal matters, I’m simply saying that personhood isn’t a scientific matter.

Fetuses are alive.Otherwise, how do they grow and develop?Please read a biology textbook.

Growing and developing does not mean that they’re medically considered alive. Sure, by some standards they are alive, but I’m focused on scientific standards right now.

What “scientific standards”? Here, I’ll try putting it in language you can relate to; You’re talking out of your ass!

lamborpanini:

mysterioussomeoneindisguise:

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lamborpanini:

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lamborpanini:

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This is because everything they believe is a #HumanRight and should be funded by the government (i.e. you), but everything they don’t believe in is wrong and should be banned. #ProChoiceLogic

Seriously? Pro choice on health care? If someone is severely injured, they’re not going to choose not to go to a hospital. Not to mention that abortion is healthcare. And liberals aren’t against guns, we’re just against violent, homicidal idiots being allowed to own them.

Most of the “violent, homicidal idiots” who have made the news in recent years have actually been liberals. Guess that explains why they consider killing babies to be “healthcare”…

There political standing has nothing to do with their choice to kill actual sentient humans who can, unlike a fetus, feel pain.

OK, I’ll play along. So it’s OK to kill someone if they can’t feel pain?

No of course not, but abortion isn’t “killing a person”, because a fetus isn’t a person.

So I guess the magic question here is; are you willing to acknowledge that that is your opinion, not scientifically proven fact?

Personhood is a legal matter, not scientific. What is scientific is that a fetus is not alive. An EEG is the medical way of determining someone’s state of consciousness; it’s a way of telling if someone is dead or alive, and fetuses don’t have an EEG. So, sure, a fetus is human, what else would it be? Even so, a fetus is not a person, and it’s not alive, and you can’t kill something that’s not alive in the first place. Abortion simply removes a non-sentient being that has no consciousness.

"personhood is a legal matter". If something is legal then you automatically agree with it? If you’re going to do that for one thing then in order to use it as a justification you have to do it for all things. Otherwise, it just doesn’t work.

As for your claim that it is scientific that a fetus is not alive, you are dodging my question. It is scientific “theory”, not scientific “fact”. If you don’t know the difference, you shouldn’t be using “science” as you argument.

I actually have 0 time for assholes who don’t know the difference between a theory and a fact. It’s proven that fetuses don’t have and EEG. And I’m not necessarily saying that I agree with all legal matters, I’m simply saying that personhood isn’t a scientific matter.

Fetuses are alive.

Otherwise, how do they grow and develop?

Please read a biology textbook.

Growing and developing does not mean that they’re medically considered alive. Sure, by some standards they are alive, but I’m focused on scientific standards right now.

What “scientific standards”? Here, I’ll try putting it in language you can relate to; You’re talking out of your ass!

Source: political-dissonance

lamborpanini:

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lamborpanini:

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This is because everything they believe is a #HumanRight and should be funded by the government (i.e. you), but everything they don’t believe in is wrong and should be banned. #ProChoiceLogic

Seriously? Pro choice on health care? If someone is severely injured, they’re not going to choose not to go to a hospital. Not to mention that abortion is healthcare. And liberals aren’t against guns, we’re just against violent, homicidal idiots being allowed to own them.

Most of the “violent, homicidal idiots” who have made the news in recent years have actually been liberals. Guess that explains why they consider killing babies to be “healthcare”…

There political standing has nothing to do with their choice to kill actual sentient humans who can, unlike a fetus, feel pain.

OK, I’ll play along. So it’s OK to kill someone if they can’t feel pain?

No of course not, but abortion isn’t “killing a person”, because a fetus isn’t a person.

So I guess the magic question here is; are you willing to acknowledge that that is your opinion, not scientifically proven fact?

Personhood is a legal matter, not scientific. What is scientific is that a fetus is not alive. An EEG is the medical way of determining someone’s state of consciousness; it’s a way of telling if someone is dead or alive, and fetuses don’t have an EEG. So, sure, a fetus is human, what else would it be? Even so, a fetus is not a person, and it’s not alive, and you can’t kill something that’s not alive in the first place. Abortion simply removes a non-sentient being that has no consciousness.

"personhood is a legal matter". If something is legal then you automatically agree with it? If you’re going to do that for one thing then in order to use it as a justification you have to do it for all things. Otherwise, it just doesn’t work.As for your claim that it is scientific that a fetus is not alive, you are dodging my question. It is scientific “theory”, not scientific “fact”. If you don’t know the difference, you shouldn’t be using “science” as you argument.

I actually have 0 time for assholes who don’t know the difference between a theory and a fact. It’s proven that fetuses don’t have and EEG. And I’m not necessarily saying that I agree with all legal matters, I’m simply saying that personhood isn’t a scientific matter.

Nice, you can’t use your words or logic to defend your flawed point of view so you’ve fallen back on cursing and name calling. Typical of your side

Pro-lifers always bring up the sweajng. You’re old enough to be on tumblr, so it’s not like you’ve never heard the word asshole. I’ve already defended my point with scientific facts, it’s not my fault you’re too closed-minded to look at facts. I’m done arguing with you.

I curse all day long. I just don’t try to pass it off as debate skills. You actually did not use “scientific facts” to defend your point of view but your opinions are noted

lamborpanini:

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lamborpanini:

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lamborpanini:

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lamborpanini:

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lamborpanini:

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This is because everything they believe is a #HumanRight and should be funded by the government (i.e. you), but everything they don’t believe in is wrong and should be banned. #ProChoiceLogic

Seriously? Pro choice on health care? If someone is severely injured, they’re not going to choose not to go to a hospital. Not to mention that abortion is healthcare. And liberals aren’t against guns, we’re just against violent, homicidal idiots being allowed to own them.

Most of the “violent, homicidal idiots” who have made the news in recent years have actually been liberals. Guess that explains why they consider killing babies to be “healthcare”…

There political standing has nothing to do with their choice to kill actual sentient humans who can, unlike a fetus, feel pain.

OK, I’ll play along. So it’s OK to kill someone if they can’t feel pain?

No of course not, but abortion isn’t “killing a person”, because a fetus isn’t a person.

So I guess the magic question here is; are you willing to acknowledge that that is your opinion, not scientifically proven fact?

Personhood is a legal matter, not scientific. What is scientific is that a fetus is not alive. An EEG is the medical way of determining someone’s state of consciousness; it’s a way of telling if someone is dead or alive, and fetuses don’t have an EEG. So, sure, a fetus is human, what else would it be? Even so, a fetus is not a person, and it’s not alive, and you can’t kill something that’s not alive in the first place. Abortion simply removes a non-sentient being that has no consciousness.

"personhood is a legal matter". If something is legal then you automatically agree with it? If you’re going to do that for one thing then in order to use it as a justification you have to do it for all things. Otherwise, it just doesn’t work.

As for your claim that it is scientific that a fetus is not alive, you are dodging my question. It is scientific “theory”, not scientific “fact”. If you don’t know the difference, you shouldn’t be using “science” as you argument.

I actually have 0 time for assholes who don’t know the difference between a theory and a fact. It’s proven that fetuses don’t have and EEG. And I’m not necessarily saying that I agree with all legal matters, I’m simply saying that personhood isn’t a scientific matter.

Nice, you can’t use your words or logic to defend your flawed point of view so you’ve fallen back on cursing and name calling. Typical of your side

Pro-lifers always bring up the sweajng. You’re old enough to be on tumblr, so it’s not like you’ve never heard the word asshole. I’ve already defended my point with scientific facts, it’s not my fault you’re too closed-minded to look at facts. I’m done arguing with you.

I curse all day long. I just don’t try to pass it off as debate skills. You actually did not use “scientific facts” to defend your point of view but your opinions are noted

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rvolt24:

political-dissonance:

lamborpanini:

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lamborpanini:

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lamborpanini:

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This is because everything they believe is a #HumanRight and should be funded by the government (i.e. you), but everything they don’t believe in is wrong and should be banned. #ProChoiceLogic

Seriously? Pro choice on health care? If someone is severely injured, they’re not going to choose not to go to a hospital. Not to mention that abortion is healthcare. And liberals aren’t against guns, we’re just against violent, homicidal idiots being allowed to own them.

Most of the “violent, homicidal idiots” who have made the news in recent years have actually been liberals. Guess that explains why they consider killing babies to be “healthcare”…

There political standing has nothing to do with their choice to kill actual sentient humans who can, unlike a fetus, feel pain.

OK, I’ll play along. So it’s OK to kill someone if they can’t feel pain?

No of course not, but abortion isn’t “killing a person”, because a fetus isn’t a person.

So I guess the magic question here is; are you willing to acknowledge that that is your opinion, not scientifically proven fact?

Personhood is a legal matter, not scientific. What is scientific is that a fetus is not alive. An EEG is the medical way of determining someone’s state of consciousness; it’s a way of telling if someone is dead or alive, and fetuses don’t have an EEG. So, sure, a fetus is human, what else would it be? Even so, a fetus is not a person, and it’s not alive, and you can’t kill something that’s not alive in the first place. Abortion simply removes a non-sentient being that has no consciousness.

"personhood is a legal matter". If something is legal then you automatically agree with it? If you’re going to do that for one thing then in order to use it as a justification you have to do it for all things. Otherwise, it just doesn’t work.As for your claim that it is scientific that a fetus is not alive, you are dodging my question. It is scientific “theory”, not scientific “fact”. If you don’t know the difference, you shouldn’t be using “science” as you argument.

I actually have 0 time for assholes who don’t know the difference between a theory and a fact. It’s proven that fetuses don’t have and EEG. And I’m not necessarily saying that I agree with all legal matters, I’m simply saying that personhood isn’t a scientific matter.

Nice, you can’t use your words or logic to defend your flawed point of view so you’ve fallen back on cursing and name calling. Typical of your side

Mind if I jump in here?…As early as 21 days after conception, the baby’s heart has begun to beat his or her own unique blood-type, often different than the mother’s.  (Moore & Persaud,The Developing Human, p.310; Nilsson & Hamberger, A Child is Born, p.86; Rugh & Shettles, From Conception to Birth, p.217.)  At 40 days after conception, brain waves can be read on an EEG, or an electroencephalogram.  (Dr. H. Hamlin, Life or Death by EEG, JAMA, Oct.12, 1964, p.113.)“By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception.”Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic

Exactly! ^^^^

rvolt24:

political-dissonance:

lamborpanini:

political-dissonance:

lamborpanini:

political-dissonance:

lamborpanini:

political-dissonance:

lamborpanini:

political-dissonance:

lamborpanini:

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This is because everything they believe is a #HumanRight and should be funded by the government (i.e. you), but everything they don’t believe in is wrong and should be banned. #ProChoiceLogic

Seriously? Pro choice on health care? If someone is severely injured, they’re not going to choose not to go to a hospital. Not to mention that abortion is healthcare. And liberals aren’t against guns, we’re just against violent, homicidal idiots being allowed to own them.

Most of the “violent, homicidal idiots” who have made the news in recent years have actually been liberals. Guess that explains why they consider killing babies to be “healthcare”…

There political standing has nothing to do with their choice to kill actual sentient humans who can, unlike a fetus, feel pain.

OK, I’ll play along. So it’s OK to kill someone if they can’t feel pain?

No of course not, but abortion isn’t “killing a person”, because a fetus isn’t a person.

So I guess the magic question here is; are you willing to acknowledge that that is your opinion, not scientifically proven fact?

Personhood is a legal matter, not scientific. What is scientific is that a fetus is not alive. An EEG is the medical way of determining someone’s state of consciousness; it’s a way of telling if someone is dead or alive, and fetuses don’t have an EEG. So, sure, a fetus is human, what else would it be? Even so, a fetus is not a person, and it’s not alive, and you can’t kill something that’s not alive in the first place. Abortion simply removes a non-sentient being that has no consciousness.

"personhood is a legal matter". If something is legal then you automatically agree with it? If you’re going to do that for one thing then in order to use it as a justification you have to do it for all things. Otherwise, it just doesn’t work.

As for your claim that it is scientific that a fetus is not alive, you are dodging my question. It is scientific “theory”, not scientific “fact”. If you don’t know the difference, you shouldn’t be using “science” as you argument.

I actually have 0 time for assholes who don’t know the difference between a theory and a fact. It’s proven that fetuses don’t have and EEG. And I’m not necessarily saying that I agree with all legal matters, I’m simply saying that personhood isn’t a scientific matter.

Nice, you can’t use your words or logic to defend your flawed point of view so you’ve fallen back on cursing and name calling. Typical of your side

Mind if I jump in here?…

As early as 21 days after conception, the baby’s heart has begun to beat his or her own unique blood-type, often different than the mother’s.  (Moore & Persaud,The Developing Human, p.310; Nilsson & Hamberger, A Child is Born, p.86; Rugh & Shettles, From Conception to Birth, p.217.)  At 40 days after conception, brain waves can be read on an EEG, or an electroencephalogram.  (Dr. H. Hamlin, Life or Death by EEG, JAMA, Oct.12, 1964, p.113.)

“By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception.”Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic

Exactly! ^^^^

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mysterioussomeoneindisguise:

lamborpanini:

political-dissonance:

lamborpanini:

political-dissonance:

lamborpanini:

political-dissonance:

lamborpanini:

political-dissonance:

lamborpanini:

political-dissonance:

This is because everything they believe is a #HumanRight and should be funded by the government (i.e. you), but everything they don’t believe in is wrong and should be banned. #ProChoiceLogic

Seriously? Pro choice on health care? If someone is severely injured, they’re not going to choose not to go to a hospital. Not to mention that abortion is healthcare. And liberals aren’t against guns, we’re just against violent, homicidal idiots being allowed to own them.

Most of the “violent, homicidal idiots” who have made the news in recent years have actually been liberals. Guess that explains why they consider killing babies to be “healthcare”…

There political standing has nothing to do with their choice to kill actual sentient humans who can, unlike a fetus, feel pain.

OK, I’ll play along. So it’s OK to kill someone if they can’t feel pain?

No of course not, but abortion isn’t “killing a person”, because a fetus isn’t a person.

So I guess the magic question here is; are you willing to acknowledge that that is your opinion, not scientifically proven fact?

Personhood is a legal matter, not scientific. What is scientific is that a fetus is not alive. An EEG is the medical way of determining someone’s state of consciousness; it’s a way of telling if someone is dead or alive, and fetuses don’t have an EEG. So, sure, a fetus is human, what else would it be? Even so, a fetus is not a person, and it’s not alive, and you can’t kill something that’s not alive in the first place. Abortion simply removes a non-sentient being that has no consciousness.

"personhood is a legal matter". If something is legal then you automatically agree with it? If you’re going to do that for one thing then in order to use it as a justification you have to do it for all things. Otherwise, it just doesn’t work.As for your claim that it is scientific that a fetus is not alive, you are dodging my question. It is scientific “theory”, not scientific “fact”. If you don’t know the difference, you shouldn’t be using “science” as you argument.

I actually have 0 time for assholes who don’t know the difference between a theory and a fact. It’s proven that fetuses don’t have and EEG. And I’m not necessarily saying that I agree with all legal matters, I’m simply saying that personhood isn’t a scientific matter.

Fetuses are alive.Otherwise, how do they grow and develop?Please read a biology textbook.

Nailed it! ^^^^

mysterioussomeoneindisguise:

lamborpanini:

political-dissonance:

lamborpanini:

political-dissonance:

lamborpanini:

political-dissonance:

lamborpanini:

political-dissonance:

lamborpanini:

political-dissonance:

This is because everything they believe is a #HumanRight and should be funded by the government (i.e. you), but everything they don’t believe in is wrong and should be banned. #ProChoiceLogic

Seriously? Pro choice on health care? If someone is severely injured, they’re not going to choose not to go to a hospital. Not to mention that abortion is healthcare. And liberals aren’t against guns, we’re just against violent, homicidal idiots being allowed to own them.

Most of the “violent, homicidal idiots” who have made the news in recent years have actually been liberals. Guess that explains why they consider killing babies to be “healthcare”…

There political standing has nothing to do with their choice to kill actual sentient humans who can, unlike a fetus, feel pain.

OK, I’ll play along. So it’s OK to kill someone if they can’t feel pain?

No of course not, but abortion isn’t “killing a person”, because a fetus isn’t a person.

So I guess the magic question here is; are you willing to acknowledge that that is your opinion, not scientifically proven fact?

Personhood is a legal matter, not scientific. What is scientific is that a fetus is not alive. An EEG is the medical way of determining someone’s state of consciousness; it’s a way of telling if someone is dead or alive, and fetuses don’t have an EEG. So, sure, a fetus is human, what else would it be? Even so, a fetus is not a person, and it’s not alive, and you can’t kill something that’s not alive in the first place. Abortion simply removes a non-sentient being that has no consciousness.

"personhood is a legal matter". If something is legal then you automatically agree with it? If you’re going to do that for one thing then in order to use it as a justification you have to do it for all things. Otherwise, it just doesn’t work.

As for your claim that it is scientific that a fetus is not alive, you are dodging my question. It is scientific “theory”, not scientific “fact”. If you don’t know the difference, you shouldn’t be using “science” as you argument.

I actually have 0 time for assholes who don’t know the difference between a theory and a fact. It’s proven that fetuses don’t have and EEG. And I’m not necessarily saying that I agree with all legal matters, I’m simply saying that personhood isn’t a scientific matter.

Fetuses are alive.

Otherwise, how do they grow and develop?

Please read a biology textbook.

Nailed it! ^^^^

Source: political-dissonance