I thought I’d post this so I could get a few dozen pro-choicers to try and convince me that they only use it because it’s “scientifically accurate”. Have at it, we know the real truth!
Lol I really don’t care what term is used. A baby has no right to use another person’s body against their will.
Would you be ok if your mom decided not to have you? Be honest.
If you have sex, bear the consequences. By consenting to do so, you’re acknowledging and accepting that the end result could possibly be pregnancy. So that “parasite” is something you created; that’s on you bitch. It is most certainly not against your will. It is a human life, it has every right that you do. (killing a pregnant woman lands you a double homicide, so the little one is considered a life. How about that?) If you really don’t want a kid, put the little guy/girl up for adoption. There are people out there desperately trying and failing to have kids, and you’re gonna throw yours in a doctors garbage can. Find that baby a good home with caring parents, because God knows I wouldn’t want parents who were willing to kill me because I wasn’t planned.
You’re a coward
or.. you know.. you could let people do what they want with their bodies. because not everyone can afford to raise a child.. or live in the environment where doing so is healthy.
It may be your body but you made a “choice” that created a new body. I always found it ironic that you guys call yourselves “pro-choice”. If you are pregnant then you already made the choice. The “choice” you guys defend so vehemently is a choice to undo the outcome of the first choice. The best choice you can make at that point if you’re incapable of raising the child is adoption. That’s a choice that will bless someone else’s life rather than just making you a cold-blooded killer.
Come back with that argument when it’s legal to put any substances you want into your body or drive without a seatbelt…
Cold blooded killer? Really?
And what about rape? Should a victim of rape have to bear the child of their rapist? They never consented to sexual activity, so it’s “not on them”. Forcing someone to have the child of someone they did not consent to have sexual activities with is fucked up.
And here again we have people trying to make decisions for others based on what they think someone “should” do. Op, you have no right to dictate to anyone what they should do, your beliefs are obviously not shared with everyone and you’re a fool if you think you have all the answers.
…said the person who thinks that it’s noble to make a choice that kills another human being for their own selfishness and convenience…
You don’t fucking know me. You have no basis or right to assume that I think it’s “noble” to abort a child. The decision to terminate pregnancy is never an easy one. I know, I have had friends who have had to make that decision. It is a painful, traumatizing, life altering decision and process, and it’s made worse by people like you standing outside of clinics calling people murderers. What I do believe is that a pregnant person has every right to decide for any reason that they do not want to carry a fetus to term. And who the fuck are you to tell anyone they can’t make decisions which will affect the rest of their lives? Are you dense? So someone who is raped and finds out they’re pregnant should be forced to carry the bastard child of a violent monster? A person who will certainly die during labor should just accept it? How about a college student with a promising future who made a mistake? Or just a person working a minimum wage job that can barely support themselves? I could go on and on, there are countless reasons a person could want to terminate pregnancy, and they are all the sole and distinct decision of that person and that person alone. And you think you have some right to call those people killers? Wait let me guess, you might say “they made the choice to have sex so they should deal with it”.
You’re a piece of garbage for telling other people how to live their lives. Nobody’s abortion affects you in the slightest other than to offend your narrow-minded selfish sensibilities.
It’s barely a life. It has no experiences, no ties to the outside world, no emotional bonds, nothing except a heartbeat - IF it’s not terminated by week 6. So before you say it again, I will say no, it is not selfish for someone to do what is best for them at the cost of a child they didn’t want anyway. Nobody should be forced to raise and care for a child they had no intention of having, unless they themselves made the decision to do so.
"you had sex and accidentally got pregnant so you should live with that for the rest of your life." (I’m paraphrasing to a degree but you basically said that) What the fuck do you care whether a person has a baby or not? It literally has no effect on your life. You’re a deplorable human being and it pains me to even recognize you as such.
I have so many thoughts I can’t even properly organize them. The basic gist of my reply, though, is fuck you. Fuck you and everyone who shares your belief that you should be allowed to shame people for looking out for their own best interest. Don’t try to act all high and mighty because you think you’re defending life. You’re advocating the disruption of a life long-since in progress for the preservation of a life which hasn’t even begun yet. Believe whatever you want, but how dare you try to impose your “morals” on people you have nothing to do with.
My view, and I try not to impose it on anyone else, it is just how I see it. When someone chooses to have sex, a baby is a very reasonable outcome. If you have sex and wonder how the hell you got pregnant, you’re not the brightest person out there. So as for the promising future bit, ehhh. People make choices all the time, and people make mistakes all the time, and people do live with those mistakes. Everyone has made choices they wish they could take back, thats why we have a word for it. Regret. People make choices they regret all the time, ending a life is never a justified counter measure.
In Re: to the rape situation, the victim didn’t make that choice, so its not hypocritical to have nuanced views that take certain aspects into account.
In Re: to health issues, “if” the mothers life is put in danger, then its not really a choice to just end one life, but rather a balancing of one for the other. Save the mother or save the child, it is a hard choice but no one can be judged for being forced to pick one life over another. And saying that pregnancy can ruin a life is not the same as ending it. So don’t try and analogize the difference.
Now I am always for freedom, and liberty and individual independence. But I do also believe that one persons liberties end where anthers begin. That is why I am against theft, rape, murder… In the case of abortions, women have the liberty to have sex or not, and they must deal with the consequences of their actions, just like men. If a female gets pregnant, yes the man gets to walk away, but if he does the mother can pursue child support. The man does not get to dictate if she keeps it or not, he doesn’t get to make the choice for her for his benefit. Now I’m not advocating that “poor men” have to deal with the consequences thus so should women, but rather just show casing that EVERYONE needs to deal with what they have done.
"It’s barely a life. It has no experiences, no ties to the outside world, no emotional bonds, nothing except a heartbeat." Here you admit that it is a life, you qualify it with barely, but barely life is still life. And it should not be up to someone’s regret to choose to prevent that life and those experiences, and all those possible ties, and emotional bonds. Just as one person’s liberties end where anthers start, a woman’s right to her body ends where the other body starts, that heartbeat, it belongs to another being. And no one should be able to end the life of another.
And for those fuck faces that refer to fetuses as “parasites” I have no will to discus this issue with them as they are devoid of any relevant knowledge. A parasite doesn’t ever turn into a human, and a fetus doesn’t remain a “parasite.” A parasite is an invading life form, and a human embryo is created from within. I’m not about to explain the whole baby making process but you could argue that sperm is the invading parasite fine, but the egg is not, and the embryo is a fertilized egg, not a single sperm transforming inside a woman eating away at her.
I personally don’t care if someone gets pregnant, it doesn’t affect me. It often doesn’t affect me when some dude murders his wife, and it doesn’t affect me when someone breaks into someone else’s house and robs them blind, but I care because I expect more from society than just what affects me, I care so sue me. And being someone who is against murder, the thought of murdering a baby doesn’t sit well, and the fact that we have laws against murder makes me think it doesn’t sit well with a lot of people.